今天(5/3)星期四 天氣晴朗
早上8點20分桃子腳出發至北市信義區行政中心(松智路與信義路間)停好車.車程33分鐘整
回程17點45分出發.停好車也是33分鐘到達北大桃子腳
路況比預期中來得好

那是您運氣好...沒遇到中和隧道塞車.......(每天走這條路的我)...

每天走這條路的我.要是說中和隧道前小塞300公尺倒是有.
倒是很少遇到中和隧道塞車----有車禍時除外

明天8點30分出發.看看屆時路況怎樣

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-3 19:30
每天走這條路的我.要是說中和隧道前小塞300公尺倒是有.
倒是很少遇到中和隧道塞車----有車禍時除外

看來台65線快速道路通車，抒解不少中和交流道的車流

想不到開車真的比坐公車及MRT快,我每天都要一小時才到松仁路

這陣子不知道是不是因為油價漲的關係,塞車狀況好很多,中和即使會塞也只是小塞(不再從土城就開始慢下來),安坑跟新店隧道也只是車速比較慢但不至於走走停停(因為每天都要從三峽到汐止)^^

今天(5/4)星期五下暴雨
早上8點30分桃子腳出發至北市信義區行政中心(松智路與信義路間)停好車.車程53分鐘整
到樹林收費站就花了15分鐘.過土城不久就大塞
還好過中和交流道之後就比較順了
道路況比預期中來得差

dingding 發表於 2012-5-3 20:24
看來台65線快速道路通車，抒解不少中和交流道的車流

不知是否與台65有關，以前過中和隧道(南下)後都很順暢，但之前過了之後車還是很多....

今天07：06從大義路學勤路口出發，走便道
"中和隧道"前車多"碧潭"跟"新店隧道"也車多，但不塞

07：38到松仁路信義路口放人

07：55到民權東路成功路口上班

今天車況跟以前一樣

今天(5/7)星期一.天氣晴朗
早上為避免星期一習慣性的塞車.7點00分就從桃子腳出發.至北市信義區行政中心(松智路與信義路間)停好車.車程33分鐘整.

回程17點42分出發.走基隆高架路面.轉環快上安坑交流道.到達北大桃子腳停好車是30分鐘.回程路況比預期中來得好


PS.沿途均依限速行駛且不超車

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-7 20:41
今天(5/7)星期一.天氣晴朗
早上為避免星期一習慣性的塞車.7點00分就從桃子腳出發.至北市信義區行政中心(松 ...

　　哇喔！超快的... 嚇到我了... {:3_50:}

今天(5/8)星期二.天氣晴朗
早上7點35分從桃子腳出發.在學勤路等了2個紅燈到繳費站花了10分鐘.至北市信義區行政中心(松智路與信義路間)停好車.車程41分鐘整.

回程18點45分出發.走基隆高架路面.轉環快上安坑交流道.到達北大桃子腳停好車是35分鐘.

PS.沿途均依限速行駛且不超車

今天(5/9)星期三. 過土城交流道偶有小雨

06：35出發走復興路
06：39加油站加油
06：43上三鶯交流道
07：05下南港交流道
07：15到！！內湖民權東路成功路口～公司

順暢{:5_218:} 還好不用天天這麼早出門

哇塞,真的是很快,不是你的車速表不準,就是我的是快樂表?還是路上都沒車?

之前沒有塞車的狀況下，也是半小時到那邊呀～這對於週六中午下班、
下午把家人帶著殺去信義計畫區看電影的我非常方便～

平民 發表於 2012-5-9 08:59
哇塞,真的是很快,不是你的車速表不準,就是我的是快樂表?還是路上都沒車?

我鄰居說今天(5/9)星期三.天氣晴朗
早上8點30分從桃子腳出發.走便道至北市信義區行政中心(松智路與信義路間)停好車.車程33分鐘整.

原來北上台北.在8點20分以後開車.高速公路上都不會塞車

今天(5/14)星期一.天氣晴朗
早上為避免星期一習慣性的塞車.7點05分就從桃子腳出發.一路上車多.至北市信義區行政中心(松智路與信義路間)停好車.車程38分鐘整.

回程17點42分出發.走信義快速道上北2高.到達北大桃子腳停好車是花了38分鐘.路況沒有比預期中來得好.明天改走信義高架轉環快.上安坑交流道試試看


PS.沿途均依限速行駛且不超車

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-14 20:54
今天(5/14)星期一.天氣晴朗
早上為避免星期一習慣性的塞車.7點05分就從桃子腳出發.一路上車多.至北市信義區 ...

我一樣在5/14那天, 7點15分下安坑, 在水源塞了40分鐘, 7點55分下辛亥路閘道.. 看來以後要改路走了

常聽說便道上高速公路！請問便道是指哪一條？該怎麼走？

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-14 20:54
今天(5/14)星期一.天氣晴朗
早上為避免星期一習慣性的塞車.7點05分就從桃子腳出發.一路上車多.至北市信義區 ...

請問回北大，信義高架怎接環快上安坑？感謝

Darvish 發表於 2012-5-18 08:56
請問回北大，信義高架怎接環快上安坑？感謝

走基隆高架靠內側直直走.就會接通水源快速道路
水源快速道路走外側直直走.就會接環快.環快靠外側直直走就會接安坑交流道上3高

581tfp 發表於 2012-5-16 09:43
常聽說便道上高速公路！請問便道是指哪一條？該怎麼走？

就是學府路往台北市方向一直走.經過佳園路時(旁邊有全家超商).直走兩邊設有禁止進入標誌的小夾道

今天(5/18)星期五.天氣晴朗
早上7點05分就從桃子腳出發.沿途均依限速行駛且不超車.走便道至北市信義區行政中心(松仁路與信義路間).車程31分鐘整
到地下室停好車.車程34分鐘整.

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-8 06:04
今天(5/8)星期二.天氣晴朗
早上7點35分從桃子腳出發.在學勤路等了2個紅燈到繳費站花了10分鐘.至北市信義區 ...

It is good that you沿途均依限速行駛, but I am not sure about your point of "...不超車...". What would you do when you come up behind a car that was doing below限速行駛??

Traffic jam starts with ONE slow vehicle that was doing below the speed of the flow (not 限速), then every other vehicle will need to go around this slower vehicle, that constant lane-changing behind-around the slow vehicle will have an ill-affect on the smooth flow of the traffic. The more the number of the vehicle on the road, the more pronounced the ill-effect will be. Walla!! there is the "traffic Jam."

The best way for every driver on the road who does not wish to be the black sheep is not to "...依限速行駛...", but to go with the flow of the traffic and not to slow down if the flow is higher than the 限速.

我所謂依限速行駛係依最高速限(加10公里)內行駛
我所謂不超車係以安全為前提.不隨意超車.避免造成後面車輛困擾


至於您說的"The best way is not to "...依限速行駛...", but to go with the flow of the traffic and not to slow down if the flow is higher than the 限速".
這事屬見仁見智.但我可不想超速(速限加10公里)行駛.台灣可是有測速照相的.來幾台死幾台

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-17 18:50
我所謂依限速行駛係依最高速限(加10公里)內行駛
我所謂不超車係以安全為前提.不隨意超車.避免造成後面車輛 ...

Agree with you 100%.

"The best way is not to "...依限速行駛...", is not my original meaning.

When taking my words out of the contact, the original meaning was lost: The best way for every driver on the road who does not wish to be the black sheep is not to "...依限速行駛...",

The original meaning was "if one does not want be the driver who starts a traffic jam" then one should "go with the flow". The flow may be 最高速限(加10公里)內行駛, so is not to "...依限速行駛...".

I never encourage speeding nor do not "...依限速行駛...". You mistook my original meanings. Thank you very much for giving me the chance to explain myself.

Cheers{:1_756:}

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-17 18:50
我所謂依限速行駛係依最高速限(加10公里)內行駛
我所謂不超車係以安全為前提.不隨意超車.避免造成後面車輛 ...

If a 超車 was done correctly, the超車would never造成後面車輛困擾.

The proper超車 is done to the left of the車輛you are passing, and only done if there is enough room in the lane you are moving to, so that you will not 困擾後面車輛.

Before moving to the higher speed lane, the超車ing 車 should adjust its speed to match the speed of the lane the 超車ing 車 is moving to...

Cheers

BasePX 發表於 2012-5-18 10:42
If a 超車 was done correctly, the超車would never造成後面車輛困擾.

The proper超車 is done to the l ...

I agree with you about the thinking of "go with the flow" but in Taiwan the key problem is you often saw cars with low speed but occupied the higher speed lane and never turned to the lower speed lane. You have to drive to the right side for overtaking the car you want to pass but sometimes there were cars on the next lane as well and you couldn't move and jamed in the middle.

Hope you can have a pleasant driving experience back to Taiwan.:)

BasePX 發表於 2012-5-18 10:29
Agree with you 100%.

"The best way is not to "...依限速行駛...", is not my original meaning.

在美國加州高速公路的車子.即便是靠最右側的慢速車道都奉行"go with the flow".
而且都經常一起超速行駛.或許是因為近年來高速公路已無測速照相的原因吧.
而且加州極少有警察在高速公路巡邏或待在一旁對車子測速

但"go with the flow"這對即將要下交流道的人並不方便.
因為即使您打方向燈.他們還是"go with the flow".一部接著一部高速行駛.你很難切進去

後來我就學到了.
不去管限速.加大油門衝上去再切進去右邊車道.
反正Dodge（道奇）Charger轎跑車大腳一踩.速度也不會比其他的車慢多少

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-18 16:28
在美國加州高速公路的車子.即便是靠最右側的慢速車道都奉行"go with the flow".
而且都經常一起超速行駛. ...

測速照相 is another reason the traffic flow is #@&* in Taiwan. Everyone slows down at the known camera location to avoid a ticket, and everyone drives at the same 100, leaves passing impossible: "...but in Taiwan the key problem is you often saw cars with low speed but occupied the higher speed lane and never turned to the lower speed lane. You have to drive to the right side for overtaking the car you want to pass but sometimes there were cars on the next lane as well and you couldn't move and jamed in the middle....".

If you put speed cameras in major artery in LA or Houston, there will be NO TRAFFIC JAM, the cameras will turn the freeway into a giant parking lot.

Speed does not kill, most fast drivers are ones who pays attentions to the driving environment and the road conditions, and they only drive as fast as the conditions allow. When the fast drive was said to "...waving through the traffic..", there were simply follow what the nature would do - speed up around obstacles.

"Speed up around obstacles" is what make the world go around, the river flow with no flood and the plane fly. Here is a simple aerodynamic of a wing:

芳草 發表於 2012-5-18 07:56
I agree with you about the thinking of "go with the flow" but in Taiwan the key problem is you oft ...

I am now "...看山是山, 看海是海...". I'll let others drive and close my eyes when I am in Taiwan.

BasePX 發表於 2012-5-19 09:04
測速照相 is another reason the traffic flow is #@&* in Taiwan. Everyone slows down at the known ca ...

哇.
談到空氣力學了
失敬失敬

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-18 19:21
哇.
談到空氣力學了
失敬失敬

I was just trying to make a point, there were too many myth on "speed-kill". And the nature knows the best.

If I was driving 150 mph on an open road with unlimited visibility and no other vehicle around, was I going too fast??

Or, if one was driving 15 mph in a crowded parking lot, I know he/she was going too fast, the speed should be less than 3-5 mph. It is all about the RELATIVITY, The real speed limit should be relative to the surrounding condition. Accident happened because some factor(s) went out of the norm.

我比較想說的是...我也是每天開車到信義行政中心...也停到地下室的... XD