3-5歲團體雙語(中英文)益智桌遊/桌上遊戲

fieanna

現在還能報名嗎??
4歲~

alibobo

不好意思!也許是我的語文程度太差,為何總覺得這句話不對勁呢?
3 y: ^/ \7 X4 h% O+ Icome 和 join 都是動詞,何以能連結使用?第二個動詞不是應該
0 T& z8 u3 C2 @7 T9 e1 F用不定詞或動名詞出現的嗎?謝謝

beesplay

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' q  }9 e  p3 ~7 O5 JYour questions are always welcome! There are certain infinitives that can follow verbs without the need for "to" before it.  "Come" is one of those. Here are other examples.

$ I* K! h" x9 z- C* oPlease help me carry my luggage.
The father made his baby cry.
. f, a+ l5 s5 @1 Z, kWe need to go buy a new car.

5 s$ L0 t4 U. B1 P( GIf you have anymore English questions, feel free to leave a message!

peichi27

beesplay 發表於 2012-7-10 20:38
) ]0 o0 {$ q" d4 T" K5 m" U/ ~/ {Your questions are always welcome! There are certain infinitives that can follow verbs without the n ...

從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
& m# {6 u5 d( v- v9 f! L因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let，
9 n0 Y; b! C: W3 D( S例如：My father has me wash the car.
' f. [$ F* b* p* Y  OMy mom lets me go outside. 之類的，
& b# B: j0 b: ~/ M  S而help雖然視為是使役動詞，但其後省略to或不省略to皆可，也就是說 I help my sister (to) do her homework.
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您的最後一個例子
0 C5 ^- V1 K9 z9 \; _( ]% e8 sWe need to go buy a new car. 應該解釋為口語用法
Come join us. 也一樣是口語用法
口語用法就是外國人講話時會用，但以台灣的教育環境來說，口語用法在升學考試是不被准許的。

以上~因自己是唸英語教學及高中職教科書英文編輯 提供一點小看法囉。

rainbow

peichi27 發表於 2012-7-11 09:22
! L8 x# D: {7 K: F% o& Y從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let， ...

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$ x3 ~/ y0 d2 l+ I' X: z6 O' E* w老師雖會說跟打一些中文
4 j0 l3 J  I2 J& v但那些台灣的文法名詞  我不知道她看不看得懂

台灣現在的英文課  口語越來越多啦~
家中一連三年  有上大學的考生  看他們的學習內容  
3 t: t0 \$ S8 p' P& g8 Q好像不會像以前的老師或課本要多補充一句
# W# b! f2 q, H0 j2 z1 Q4 @"考試要這樣....""講話要這樣...."
一句話要記好幾種用法

alibobo

任職外商13年,成天和老外混在一起,即使是colloquial(口語),也不記得曾聽聞此種說法.
- f. k3 V+ t$ a. Z" X$ S6 Q7 Qcome and go 好像也不是使役動詞(let, have, make......).
3 e: O$ e5 i% b6 {& a2 W% e" R1 d8 T藉機會複習一下文法.請見諒.

beesplay

rainbow 發表於 2012-7-11 11:33
老師雖會說跟打一些中文
但那些台灣的文法名詞  我不知道她看不看得懂

Yeah, I understand them.  I taught grammar for many many years to adults at Global Village using their "English" Chinese book.    Global Village is where I learned a lot of my Chinese adjectives and nouns and also Chinese characters.  Every time I said something, my adult students would translate them in Chinese for me because my Chinese was really weak back then.  

beesplay

peichi27 發表於 2012-7-11 09:22
從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
/ Z: S2 G! A5 i/ t7 `因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let， ...

Go buy and come join are not informal English. It's real English. If you look in any English academic textbook, real American English or British English grammar books, there is a lesson on these special infinitives.  I would recommend looking at Pearson, Scholastic, or other big publishers.  I love grammar and I love answering questions on grammar.  So, message me anytime.

fieanna

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alibobo

還是找不到文法中有所謂的"Special infinitives",真是傷腦筋.
比較可以確定的是,come join與 go buy可以用,但仍屬於口語範疇.
繼續努力,如果外國文法書中,確實有此一章節專論"Special infinitives",
9 l! F8 L$ l6 ?也算是新知識,收穫匪淺.