3-5歲團體雙語(中英文)益智桌遊/桌上遊戲

fieanna

現在還能報名嗎??
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alibobo

不好意思!也許是我的語文程度太差,為何總覺得這句話不對勁呢?
& t, M: {8 B8 A! K  Ucome 和 join 都是動詞,何以能連結使用?第二個動詞不是應該
用不定詞或動名詞出現的嗎?謝謝

beesplay

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2 G0 S- H1 }" jYour questions are always welcome! There are certain infinitives that can follow verbs without the need for "to" before it.  "Come" is one of those. Here are other examples.
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# }! i2 F4 B4 M- |  F* E, QPlease help me carry my luggage.
. r  u' w  r7 S0 F9 `The father made his baby cry.
& D- j9 @1 j% u9 ^4 s1 FWe need to go buy a new car.
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9 @, Q4 Z" X5 U2 `8 |4 N9 z. SIf you have anymore English questions, feel free to leave a message!

peichi27

beesplay 發表於 2012-7-10 20:38
; X" j& j& Z" u/ |+ t4 V2 W  AYour questions are always welcome! There are certain infinitives that can follow verbs without the n ...

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從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let，
例如：My father has me wash the car.
# U1 Q  M' c' N3 x3 C& v0 C9 sMy mom lets me go outside. 之類的，
而help雖然視為是使役動詞，但其後省略to或不省略to皆可，也就是說 I help my sister (to) do her homework.
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; L' X+ o) E- r2 n: M您的最後一個例子
We need to go buy a new car. 應該解釋為口語用法
Come join us. 也一樣是口語用法
' Z2 F" v* J" ^1 O( {' a' w1 T口語用法就是外國人講話時會用，但以台灣的教育環境來說，口語用法在升學考試是不被准許的。

以上~因自己是唸英語教學及高中職教科書英文編輯 提供一點小看法囉。

rainbow

peichi27 發表於 2012-7-11 09:22
4 c4 Z& l, k0 {3 Z  A從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
+ U# s8 a& x1 n* H- ]) L* a) i因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let， ...

9 J1 B+ T( c9 I5 j% e8 ?6 R& p老師雖會說跟打一些中文
( Q* B4 U0 C' ]9 H4 T! v但那些台灣的文法名詞  我不知道她看不看得懂

, ^- h/ h! d, c0 [台灣現在的英文課  口語越來越多啦~
家中一連三年  有上大學的考生  看他們的學習內容  
8 h; `' B' d( b+ Y7 A- `好像不會像以前的老師或課本要多補充一句
7 K: f0 Q3 {" i" n" ^"考試要這樣....""講話要這樣...."
一句話要記好幾種用法

alibobo

任職外商13年,成天和老外混在一起,即使是colloquial(口語),也不記得曾聽聞此種說法.
come and go 好像也不是使役動詞(let, have, make......).
! h& m% A/ ~# A( X) S6 @2 g( g藉機會複習一下文法.請見諒.

beesplay

rainbow 發表於 2012-7-11 11:33
老師雖會說跟打一些中文
  ^  H$ }- _. q; F- ^7 v& J但那些台灣的文法名詞  我不知道她看不看得懂

Yeah, I understand them.  I taught grammar for many many years to adults at Global Village using their "English" Chinese book.    Global Village is where I learned a lot of my Chinese adjectives and nouns and also Chinese characters.  Every time I said something, my adult students would translate them in Chinese for me because my Chinese was really weak back then.  

beesplay

peichi27 發表於 2012-7-11 09:22
2 s1 ^+ d' B9 q" |$ w0 o& `9 B從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
1 `( Z/ V1 O2 N  j因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let， ...

) C7 V) a' k6 _+ p# }5 ]Go buy and come join are not informal English. It's real English. If you look in any English academic textbook, real American English or British English grammar books, there is a lesson on these special infinitives.  I would recommend looking at Pearson, Scholastic, or other big publishers.  I love grammar and I love answering questions on grammar.  So, message me anytime.

fieanna

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alibobo

還是找不到文法中有所謂的"Special infinitives",真是傷腦筋.
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繼續努力,如果外國文法書中,確實有此一章節專論"Special infinitives",
也算是新知識,收穫匪淺.