3-5歲團體雙語(中英文)益智桌遊/桌上遊戲

fieanna

現在還能報名嗎??
4歲~

alibobo

不好意思!也許是我的語文程度太差,為何總覺得這句話不對勁呢?
0 ]5 T( N+ Z0 P& M: g* y: \come 和 join 都是動詞,何以能連結使用?第二個動詞不是應該
用不定詞或動名詞出現的嗎?謝謝

beesplay

' k+ n2 d2 t# v& ?8 K/ i7 F! kYour questions are always welcome! There are certain infinitives that can follow verbs without the need for "to" before it.  "Come" is one of those. Here are other examples.

Please help me carry my luggage.
The father made his baby cry.
We need to go buy a new car.

9 O' K% g' y4 CIf you have anymore English questions, feel free to leave a message!

peichi27

beesplay 發表於 2012-7-10 20:38
Your questions are always welcome! There are certain infinitives that can follow verbs without the n ...

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從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
7 G( W" Y4 f# M+ \; H因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let，
例如：My father has me wash the car.
1 W+ z* [( k( d* fMy mom lets me go outside. 之類的，
而help雖然視為是使役動詞，但其後省略to或不省略to皆可，也就是說 I help my sister (to) do her homework.

您的最後一個例子
4 W0 |7 s- d3 C2 h5 kWe need to go buy a new car. 應該解釋為口語用法
/ w1 _' R/ x: Y1 X. w) RCome join us. 也一樣是口語用法
4 g3 u1 g  V( m5 D5 M& U8 g& N口語用法就是外國人講話時會用，但以台灣的教育環境來說，口語用法在升學考試是不被准許的。

7 ?% M; r% f* g8 T( g以上~因自己是唸英語教學及高中職教科書英文編輯 提供一點小看法囉。

rainbow

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peichi27 發表於 2012-7-11 09:22
從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let， ...

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' d+ h) r, m6 k1 \( ?7 J# Y老師雖會說跟打一些中文
3 o% k* r$ N+ g+ L但那些台灣的文法名詞  我不知道她看不看得懂
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, A4 [2 V9 z% h" A- N. n5 |- b: `. \  ~台灣現在的英文課  口語越來越多啦~
家中一連三年  有上大學的考生  看他們的學習內容  
好像不會像以前的老師或課本要多補充一句
"考試要這樣....""講話要這樣...."
一句話要記好幾種用法

alibobo

任職外商13年,成天和老外混在一起,即使是colloquial(口語),也不記得曾聽聞此種說法.
* g) m$ b$ b+ S- w# Ccome and go 好像也不是使役動詞(let, have, make......).
- m- I' p6 e7 C$ e: V# d藉機會複習一下文法.請見諒.

beesplay

rainbow 發表於 2012-7-11 11:33
老師雖會說跟打一些中文
但那些台灣的文法名詞  我不知道她看不看得懂

, k4 M9 R  z$ h; a, g1 GYeah, I understand them.  I taught grammar for many many years to adults at Global Village using their "English" Chinese book.    Global Village is where I learned a lot of my Chinese adjectives and nouns and also Chinese characters.  Every time I said something, my adult students would translate them in Chinese for me because my Chinese was really weak back then.  

beesplay

peichi27 發表於 2012-7-11 09:22
從您的舉例來看，應該解釋為help和make是使役動詞，
! R2 D6 E' |: ]5 W8 ^7 K( J0 c因此其後接的動詞，省略to，此類動詞還有have和let， ...

Go buy and come join are not informal English. It's real English. If you look in any English academic textbook, real American English or British English grammar books, there is a lesson on these special infinitives.  I would recommend looking at Pearson, Scholastic, or other big publishers.  I love grammar and I love answering questions on grammar.  So, message me anytime.

fieanna

現在還能報名嗎??
4歲~

alibobo

還是找不到文法中有所謂的"Special infinitives",真是傷腦筋.
比較可以確定的是,come join與 go buy可以用,但仍屬於口語範疇.
繼續努力,如果外國文法書中,確實有此一章節專論"Special infinitives",
也算是新知識,收穫匪淺.