北大桃子腳至北市信義區車程33分鐘

sugar100

Darvish 發表於 2012-5-18 08:56
請問回北大，信義高架怎接環快上安坑？感謝

走基隆高架靠內側直直走.就會接通水源快速道路
水源快速道路走外側直直走.就會接環快.環快靠外側直直走就會接安坑交流道上3高

sugar100

581tfp 發表於 2012-5-16 09:43
常聽說便道上高速公路！請問便道是指哪一條？該怎麼走？

就是學府路往台北市方向一直走.經過佳園路時(旁邊有全家超商).直走兩邊設有禁止進入標誌的小夾道

sugar100

今天(5/18)星期五.天氣晴朗
早上7點05分就從桃子腳出發.沿途均依限速行駛且不超車.走便道至北市信義區行政中心(松仁路與信義路間).車程31分鐘整
到地下室停好車.車程34分鐘整.

BasePX

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-8 06:04
今天(5/8)星期二.天氣晴朗
早上7點35分從桃子腳出發.在學勤路等了2個紅燈到繳費站花了10分鐘.至北市信義區 ...

It is good that you沿途均依限速行駛, but I am not sure about your point of "...不超車...". What would you do when you come up behind a car that was doing below限速行駛??

Traffic jam starts with ONE slow vehicle that was doing below the speed of the flow (not 限速), then every other vehicle will need to go around this slower vehicle, that constant lane-changing behind-around the slow vehicle will have an ill-affect on the smooth flow of the traffic. The more the number of the vehicle on the road, the more pronounced the ill-effect will be. Walla!! there is the "traffic Jam."

The best way for every driver on the road who does not wish to be the black sheep is not to "...依限速行駛...", but to go with the flow of the traffic and not to slow down if the flow is higher than the 限速.

sugar100

我所謂依限速行駛係依最高速限(加10公里)內行駛
我所謂不超車係以安全為前提.不隨意超車.避免造成後面車輛困擾


至於您說的"The best way is not to "...依限速行駛...", but to go with the flow of the traffic and not to slow down if the flow is higher than the 限速".
這事屬見仁見智.但我可不想超速(速限加10公里)行駛.台灣可是有測速照相的.來幾台死幾台

BasePX

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-17 18:50
我所謂依限速行駛係依最高速限(加10公里)內行駛
我所謂不超車係以安全為前提.不隨意超車.避免造成後面車輛 ...

Agree with you 100%.

"The best way is not to "...依限速行駛...", is not my original meaning.

When taking my words out of the contact, the original meaning was lost: The best way for every driver on the road who does not wish to be the black sheep is not to "...依限速行駛...",  

The original meaning was "if one does not want be the driver who starts a traffic jam" then one should "go with the flow". The flow may be 最高速限(加10公里)內行駛, so is not to "...依限速行駛...".

I never encourage speeding nor do not "...依限速行駛...". You mistook my original meanings. Thank you very much for giving me the chance to explain myself.

Cheers

BasePX

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-17 18:50
我所謂依限速行駛係依最高速限(加10公里)內行駛
我所謂不超車係以安全為前提.不隨意超車.避免造成後面車輛 ...

If a 超車 was done correctly, the超車would never造成後面車輛困擾.

The proper超車 is done to the left of the車輛you are passing, and only done if there is enough room in the lane you are moving to, so that you will not 困擾後面車輛.

Before moving to the higher speed lane, the超車ing 車 should adjust its speed to match the speed of the lane the 超車ing 車 is moving to...

Cheers

芳草

BasePX 發表於 2012-5-18 10:42
If a 超車 was done correctly, the超車would never造成後面車輛困擾.

The proper超車 is done to the l ...

I agree with you about the thinking of "go with the flow" but in Taiwan the key problem is you often saw cars with low speed but occupied the higher speed lane and never turned to the lower speed lane. You have to drive to the right side for overtaking the car you want to pass but sometimes there were cars on the next lane as well and you couldn't move and jamed in the middle.

Hope you can have a pleasant driving experience back to Taiwan.

sugar100

BasePX 發表於 2012-5-18 10:29
Agree with you 100%.

"The best way is not to "...依限速行駛...", is not my original meaning.

在美國加州高速公路的車子.即便是靠最右側的慢速車道都奉行"go with the flow".
而且都經常一起超速行駛.或許是因為近年來高速公路已無測速照相的原因吧.
而且加州極少有警察在高速公路巡邏或待在一旁對車子測速

但"go with the flow"這對即將要下交流道的人並不方便.
因為即使您打方向燈.他們還是"go with the flow".一部接著一部高速行駛.你很難切進去

後來我就學到了.
不去管限速.加大油門衝上去再切進去右邊車道.
反正Dodge（道奇）Charger轎跑車大腳一踩.速度也不會比其他的車慢多少

BasePX

sugar100 發表於 2012-5-18 16:28
在美國加州高速公路的車子.即便是靠最右側的慢速車道都奉行"go with the flow".
而且都經常一起超速行駛. ...

測速照相 is another reason the traffic flow is #@&* in Taiwan. Everyone slows down at the known camera location to avoid a ticket, and everyone drives at the same 100, leaves passing impossible: "...but in Taiwan the key problem is you often saw cars with low speed but occupied the higher speed lane and never turned to the lower speed lane. You have to drive to the right side for overtaking the car you want to pass but sometimes there were cars on the next lane as well and you couldn't move and jamed in the middle....".

If you put speed cameras in major artery in LA or Houston, there will be NO TRAFFIC JAM, the cameras will turn the freeway into a giant parking lot.

Speed does not kill, most fast drivers are ones who pays attentions to the driving environment and the road conditions, and they only drive as fast as the conditions allow. When the fast drive was said to "...waving through the traffic..", there were simply follow what the nature would do - speed up around obstacles.

"Speed up around obstacles" is what make the world go around, the river flow with no flood and the plane fly. Here is a simple aerodynamic of a wing: