台灣快速道路-60公里速限-超速照相

BasePX

台灣快速道路60公里的速限 is the most 不合理速限 I've ever seen anywhere in the world.

美國住宅區速限 is at 35 mph for undivided roads and you have a 3-5 mile tolerance. That means it is safe to drive 60 公里時速 in a 美國住宅區. There is the 學校區速限 at certain time of the day the 速限 is reduced to 20 mph (32公里時速) when the school kids were let out.

美國住宅區速限 is 41 mph (65 公里時速) on all divided four-lane main road and you have a 3-5 mile tolerance. That means it is safe to drive 72 公里時速 in a 美國住宅區. . There is the 學校區速限 at certain time of the day the 速限 is reduced to 35 mph (56公里時速) when the school kids were let out.

My question to the Traffic Planners in Taiwan:

If 56公里時速速限 is save for the school kids on undivided 學校區 roads in 美國住宅區, why is the same speed not save for 台灣平面道路 (most with 50公里時速速限)?
If 72公里時速速限 is save for the divided four-lane roads at 美國住宅區速限, why is the same speed not save for 台灣快速道路 (divided four-lane)?

國王

65就還沒有全線通車，台灣徵收土地困難要閃來閃去所以彎道多，會有比較低的速限是很正常的，就算在德國，只要高速公路有修護路段一樣也會有限速阿，國人守法習慣本來就很"不同"，速度放的比先進國家慢也是很正常。高速公路施工路段寫著限速70，有多少駕駛真的就只開70？在德國人家寫限速多少，管你是雙B還是四個圈的通通就是照限速跑，我們辦的到嗎？辦的到再說政府限速太高。

BasePX

麥克 發表於 2012-10-25 18:08
原來大叔您愛飆車~~~呵呵!

1978, 民國 67年的汽車, 那時能選的車種不多阿.....請問是那一款的? ...

My record was Taipei (火車站) - Taichung (火車站) on surface road in under two hours.

BasePX

麥克 發表於 2012-10-25 18:08
原來大叔您愛飆車~~~呵呵!

1978, 民國 67年的汽車, 那時能選的車種不多阿.....請問是那一款的? ...

速利 1200, white, with custom white rims.

I found a stock photo on the internet (it is NOT my car, but it is the same model and color).

麥克

BasePX 發表於 2012-10-26 01:01
My daughter asked me once: "Daddy, how fast do you drive??". My answer to her was: "I drive as fas ...

原來大叔您愛飆車~~~呵呵!

1978, 民國 67年的汽車, 那時能選的車種不多阿.....請問是那一款的?

BasePX

麥克 發表於 2012-10-24 23:25
其實美國的速限不管放多寬, 本身參考意義並不大, 因為德國早有無限速的高速公路, 開放給自家的 BENZ, BMW ...

My daughter asked me once: "Daddy, how fast do you drive??". My answer to her was: "I drive as fast as the road condition allows." It is a statement that I can write a book about.

Your said: "...時速 140Km/hr... 那需要很好的駕駛技巧與注意力, 否則也只是多點機會早一點上西天而已, 大部份的駕駛在車速超過110以上時, 安全視覺範圍就縮小了, 開起車來手腳就軟了..." Your point was the the heart of the "speed-kill" Myth.

One needs 120% concentration and full awareness of the surrounding condition, complete knowledge of the performance limitation of the vehicle, sharp eye-hand coordination, and top physical condition to drive fast. If one simply puts the foot down and floor the gas paddle, one is asking for trouble. Everyone can cook but not everyone can be a Chef.

There are only a handful of drivers do top speed of his/her vehicle on 無限速的高速公路. I am one of the handful; I pay maximum attention while driving, in any speed.

The only accident I had in my X0-year driving was in Taipei in 1978. I hit the tail end (luggage rack) of a motorcycle that run the red light. I acted fast enough but I did not slow down fast enough to miss him completely (no ABS), but I've managed to slowed down fast enough to throw him off his motorcycle with no injury to him nor damage to his motorcycle. He picked up his bike and speed away, leaving me to pick up the repair bill for the damaged front end of my car.

麥克

BasePX 發表於 2012-10-25 12:22
On the News today:

SAN ANTONIO - The fastest highway in the U.S. will open on Wednesday.(在美國限 ...

其實美國的速限不管放多寬, 本身參考意義並不大, 因為德國早有無限速的高速公路, 開放給自家的 BENZ, BMW去狂奔.

我想重點在於不是每位駕駛都有興趣以時速 140Km/hr以上衝刺, 那需要很好的駕駛技巧與注意力, 否則也只是多點機會早一點上西天而已, 大部份的駕駛在車速超過110以上時, 安全視覺範圍就縮小了, 開起車來手腳就軟了.... 看到名貴跑車從旁邊用 120Km/hr以上速度呼嘯而過, 超車加上變換車道硬著要卡位時, 還會咒罵一句 : 夭壽, 是趕要去赴死喔.

我記得以前出差時在加州 Highway 101上, 晚上這些美國人開起車來都超快無比, 幾乎都是維持在 120Km/hr左右在狂奔, 逼的我們這些外國人也得跟著大腳油門衝刺, 我有一位加拿大籍的同事(台灣人, 雙重國籍), 有一天半夜 Call help給主管, 說被 highway 101上的公路巡警欄下來了..... 問他為什麼, 他說, 因為我的車速應該快 150km/hr吧....

然後他拿加拿大護照去跟美國警察坳......最後, 沒有收到 Ticket, 被訓誡一頓後放行....

BasePX

麥克 發表於 2012-10-24 19:44
快速道路的速限是由交通局設定的, 歷年來國人也不斷的在爭取放寬速限, 不過交通局官員聲稱自有一套計算道路 ...

On the News today:

SAN ANTONIO - The fastest highway in the U.S. will open on Wednesday.(在美國限速最快的公路週三開放)

The grand opening of Highway 130 takes place at 10:30 a.m., but the road will not be completely open to traffic until sometime in the afternoon. (德州的交通部已經批准，從11月11日開始，他們將提高首府Austin與San Antonio之間的130號洲際公路(State Highway 130)速限，達137km/h(85mph)。)

Drivers will be able to legally drive up to 85 miles per hour (85英里/小時 = 136公里/小時)on the stretch between Seguin and Austin. That's led to predictions that drivers used to going faster than speed limits will routinely hit 100 mph (100英里/小時 = 160公里/小時).

麥克

快速道路的速限是由交通局設定的, 歷年來國人也不斷的在爭取放寬速限, 不過交通局官員聲稱自有一套計算道路安全速限的方式, 參考基準有彎道數量, 彎道曲度, 路幅, 車道數等等.

隨著國內高性能車量越來越普及, 車輛操控性與馬力提昇, 以往政府以 [低限速] 來克服駕駛人因為自身技術與車輛性能不佳所導致的安全風險問題, 不斷的被民眾質疑不切實際, 認為我的車子四平八穩, 快速道路又平又直, 油門輕踩一下可能不小心就超速違規了, 設這麼低的速限不是坑人嗎?

數年前, 台北市政府在馬英九市長時代發難, 真的[依法行政]照著速限牌上的數字來照相取締, 一時之間民怨沸騰, 說各廠牌車輛的車速表誤差這麼大, 何來統一標準可嚴格執行? 因此迫使交通部公告全國一致的政策, 即 [速限牌的數字再加上10才會照相取締], 等於變相放寬全國各種道路的時速限制.

更甚者, 還立法要求警察的測速照相要在前方數十公尺處插警告牌, 告知 [此地無銀三百兩] 前面有測速相機, 再這麼白目衝過去的話, 就不要再怨政府了, 也因此民眾與政府對速限問題的爭議, 相安無事到今日.

這整個故事就是這樣了, 其實很多開車技術好, 車上有配備GPS測速照相定位提示的駕駛, 還是不會照速限來開的, 要多快就有多快.... 閃過相機就是了.

   

BasePX

Antus 發表於 2012-10-22 04:10
I don't see the reason to complain about speed limit. basically, if you wanna drive in certain count ...

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